June 29, 2004

Upgrade progress (or lack thereof)

The process continues. A few notes:

* Thnaks to Mark L. for pointers that are helping solve some of the problems. However, they don't seem to be addressing problems with Typekey themselves, as it's refusing to send me a registration email. If anybody else has been able to become a registered user of Typekey, let me know-- and of course, please try to use it here, so I have a real registered commentor to test against.

* Secondly, I have discovered only after upgrading that MT-Blacklist is incompatible with the new version of Movable Type-- which means my spam inbox is going to be exploding shortly. Thanks heaps, SixApart-- I'm SO glad I paid you money.

Folks, if you can avoid upgrading, DON'T. If any representatives of SixApart would deign to contact me so that these niggling little problems can be worked out, feel free-- otherwise, I'm going to keep using the bully pulpit here.

* Finally, to the chap who prompted all of this in the first place: Dee, you better run. Peter was merely ticked at you; I'm now out for blood after having to spend hours cleaning up your messes. Disconnecting your Comcast account isn't going to be enough to hide-- I recommend moving.

UPDATE: If I didn't make it clear, when you post, clicking on Typekey should allow you to sign up so that you won't have to wait for your posts to be approved. So please do so, because otherwise who knows when your comments will go live.

FURTHER UPDATE (3:51 PM): Typekey has numerous reports of the confirmation emails being blocked as spam. So we're working with that as well. Joy.

Posted by Glenn Hauman at June 29, 2004 12:30 PM | TrackBack | Other blogs commenting
Comments
Posted by: Kurt at June 29, 2004 12:37 PM

Do we know where Dee lives? If he lived anywhere in my neck of the woods, I'd be happy to join the hunt.

Posted by: Joe Frietze at June 29, 2004 12:53 PM

Testing 1 2 3.
Thanks for the advice Glenn. I've just started up a few blogs with MT-2.661 and didn't want to upgrade. Now I know I was right.

Joe

Posted by: Pete at June 29, 2004 12:56 PM

I'm good to go; I had to get in and out of TypeKey first, though, because I couldn't read the verification string.

Posted by: Mark L at June 29, 2004 12:57 PM

Logged in, here's a test.

Posted by: Mark L at June 29, 2004 12:57 PM

It appears to be working :)

Posted by: Richard at June 29, 2004 01:01 PM

Long time lurker, first time poster (I think). Nothing much to say , other than I'm a fan of Peter's work.

Posted by: BillRitter at June 29, 2004 01:05 PM

A shame you both have been put through the nonsense these past days and weeks. Hopefully this will make things better.

Just a few minutes with TypeKey registration, also. Piece of cake, quick.

Posted by: Glenn Hauman at June 29, 2004 01:06 PM

Testing.

Posted by: Rick Keating at June 29, 2004 01:15 PM

This is a test.

2X 2L calling CQ. 2X 2 L calling CQ New York. Is there anyone on the air? Is there anyone? Is there anyone...??

Posted by: Pascal at June 29, 2004 01:21 PM

Does this work?

Posted by: Toby at June 29, 2004 01:23 PM

I think Dee at one point said she lived in MA (hence the first time I noticed her ravings, being that I grew up in MA, and she claimed to know how aweful Kerry would be as president simply because she's from the same state).

Uh, Monkeys, I guess.

Posted by: Numfar PTB at June 29, 2004 01:23 PM

Just testing.

Registration that was easy. The only big difference is that from now on I'll be posting with the nickname I'm used to use in boards like Whedonesque, while I was used to use my real name to comment in here.

Posted by: Tobin Lopes at June 29, 2004 01:25 PM

Wow...

I can't imagine the work involved with doing something like this.

Good luck Glenn, Peter, and whomever else might be involved.

-tpl

Posted by: ObeeKris at June 29, 2004 01:32 PM

Working for me.

Posted by: Rick Keating at June 29, 2004 01:32 PM

O.K, I've just gone through the typekey registration process. Let's see if this posts without difficulty.

"Hello! Hello, Earth. This is Captain John Black. Do you read me, Earth? The Martians are--"

Posted by: Rick Keating at June 29, 2004 01:41 PM

Back again, not using Typekey this time, with a question. Is there a way we can _not_ have our E-Mail addresses show when we go in through Typekey? I don't mind giving it to Glenn or Peter for their records, but I get enough spam as it is, and don't want it out there for just anyone who reads the blog.

Rick

Posted by: SMB at June 29, 2004 01:46 PM

Just a lurker, but just in case you need to be registered in the future just to read the log. Best wishes to all.

Posted by: Michael Garcia at June 29, 2004 01:53 PM

Testing...
Turning and turning in the widening gyre...

Posted by: Tammy at June 29, 2004 01:57 PM

The dude ditched his Comcast account to hide?? l00zer. Dude isn't even a conservative (holds up voter registration stamped Republican), he's just a yackass. He one day hopes to graduate to being a jackass. Anihilate.

Posted by: Bill Mulligan at June 29, 2004 02:07 PM

Hi...am I here? (tap tap) Is this mic on?

Posted by: hermann at June 29, 2004 02:20 PM

Well, I just registered with typekey. I hope this "Dweeb" hunt is fun and short-lived.

Posted by: Luigi Novi at June 29, 2004 02:31 PM

I've got my bloodhound with me, and he's trained to kill. And he loves the smell of troll blood in the morning.

Posted by: Jeff Linder at June 29, 2004 02:31 PM

No problems with TypeKey.

Hey Glen (and Peter). If you have time to breathe at ShoreLeave, find me at the Philcon table. I'll buy ya both a drink and we can pin up one of Dee's posts on the bar dartboard if they have one...

Posted by: Ralf Haring at June 29, 2004 02:34 PM

Testing.

Posted by: Scott at June 29, 2004 02:43 PM

Posting so that I can get approved and comment.

Posted by: Michael Pullmann at June 29, 2004 02:45 PM

Just establishing a presence. Carry on.

Posted by: Wildcat at June 29, 2004 03:11 PM

Testing, also...

Posted by: KET at June 29, 2004 03:14 PM

Testing as well. Took a bit of time to get TypeKey to register me, but it seems to be working now.

KET

Posted by: Elayne Riggs at June 29, 2004 03:15 PM

Goodness, I'm glad I don't have to jump through all these hoops with Blogger and Haloscan! :)

Posted by: Elayne Riggs at June 29, 2004 03:18 PM

Well, that was a surprise; thanks to this new feature of PeterDavid.net I was just reminded that I'd already signed up at TypeKey. :)

Posted by: Ben Rosenberg at June 29, 2004 03:19 PM

Instead of dealing with all this stuff for comments why not just setup a smaller version of a message board like millarworld uses. It seems to work quite well.. when they don't forget to renue their domain. ;)

Posted by: Joe V. at June 29, 2004 03:24 PM

Hey,
here's my try.

Joe V.

Posted by: KET at June 29, 2004 03:33 PM

Testing again...okay, I think I'm getting the hang of this new deal now.

KET

Posted by: John DiBello at June 29, 2004 03:37 PM

No problem registering at TypeKey or signing in here. This is actually a lot easier (I s'pose you have to remember not to clear out your cookies, or you'll have to log in manually at TypeKey, correct?)

Posted by: Mariann at June 29, 2004 03:43 PM

When I saw the last entry, I tried to post a question, "How do you like registered comments?" And then I saw the snafu and decided not to ask. Definitely something to remember if/when I upgrade, though I've no problems with TypeKey, when I have to use it on various sites. I'm eagerly waiting for the next version of Blacklist to come out. In addition to supporting 3.0, the plugin also offers a groups fuction, which sounds kinda neat.

Posted by: Kurt Onstad at June 29, 2004 03:49 PM

Having been in charge of a forum myself in the past, I completely feel your pain, Glenn...Here's hoping you get it all taken care of quickly, so that you can try to forget this whole ugly mess.

Posted by: David at June 29, 2004 03:51 PM

So is this a post or is this a post?

Posted by: Michael Cravens at June 29, 2004 04:26 PM

Ground control to Major Tom?

I am Spartacus!

You can't handle the truth!

I am serious, and don't call me Shirley.

Look, Daddy...Teacher says every time a bell rings, an angel gets his wings.

You talkin' to me?

Adrienne! Yo Adrienne!

Snakes. Why'd it have to be snakes?

That concludes my test using notable film quotes. We now return Glenn to his regularly scheduled state of frustration. ;-)

Posted by: arcee at June 29, 2004 04:27 PM

This is all so sad but inevitable.

When a person opens a 'door' to anyone not every one appreciates the courage that act entails and instead of 'playing' nice they bring their 'demons' with them.

Well as the saying goes, some people bless a place when they arrive ... others when they leave. Or exiled, as it were.

Certainly this website is blessed now that Dee is gone.

Posted by: J. Alexander at June 29, 2004 04:30 PM

So, Peter, how come you do not ask for comments on your newest issue of SOULSEARCHERS AND COMPANY?

Posted by: insideman at June 29, 2004 04:35 PM

How do I get this strange new identity?

Posted by: Chris at June 29, 2004 04:37 PM

Random quote I recall from "Q-Squared":

Thomas Ian Riker to Commander Picard: "I don't believe you were ever young. And did you ever have hair?!"

Note that this is only a test of the PAD logging in system typing (PAD-LIST). If this were an actual PAD-LIST, there would be some worthwhile comments. But this is a crappy post. Yipee ki yay.

Chris

Posted by: Deano at June 29, 2004 04:38 PM

let me see if this stuff works

Posted by: insideman at June 29, 2004 04:44 PM

I guess the registration worked for me. Yoohoo!

Posted by: Matt Adler at June 29, 2004 04:45 PM

Works for me.

Posted by: Matt Adler at June 29, 2004 04:47 PM

Testing one more thing...

Posted by: dnecolt at June 29, 2004 04:48 PM

Here's my login

Posted by: Matt Adler at June 29, 2004 04:49 PM

Just want to see if I can get my email addy to show up...

Posted by: snowcra5h at June 29, 2004 05:00 PM

Typekey's little test to make sure you're a person and not a bot is nice... except I could barely read the thing....
Just a comment.


Travis

Posted by: Michael Brunner at June 29, 2004 05:05 PM

Just making sure i'm still in the club

Posted by: John DiBello at June 29, 2004 05:13 PM

Matt, how did you get your email to show up as a clickable link?

Posted by: John DiBello at June 29, 2004 05:13 PM

(In the words of Emily Litella...nevermind!)

Posted by: Deano at June 29, 2004 05:14 PM

Okay after much ,frustration and profanity,this thing works.Sorry im not a computer genius.:)
This is not what I would have preferred but when morons like the Shrouded one i guess this was the only option.Shrouding would work with a esponsible rational human.The above mentioned person is obviously not that.Oh well ,for better or worse my idiocy can still be read on this blog
:)

Posted by: Deano at June 29, 2004 05:16 PM

I meant responsible human,this thing posts QUICK

Posted by: Baerbel Haddrell at June 29, 2004 05:28 PM

I am not sure what a typeKey identity is but I am trying now to write something.

Unfortunately, I have seen this coming, also because at least one of the other boards I visit as well had similar problems. I hate it that a tiny minority (one person in this case, it seems!) is spoiling it for everybody else.

First of all I want to say "thank you" for all the work and effort you, Glenn, have done and are still doing to put this right.

Posted by: Katheryn at June 29, 2004 05:29 PM

May a thousand horny Ferengi suddenly find Dee attractive....

Posted by: timewalker2099 at June 29, 2004 05:31 PM

Testing TypeKey registration.
Joe

Posted by: Dan Cox at June 29, 2004 05:40 PM

London calling (Well I'm sort of close to it, come on I've wanted to do that for ages!)

I'm in!!!

Registering was simple and easy for me, was I too lucky?

Posted by: Sparhawk at June 29, 2004 05:44 PM

testing this thing, sorry it came to this, but hopefully this will straighten it out.

Now, hopefully they don't get desparate for some money and start selling all these email addys. (Not you and Peter, Glenn, but the TypeKey people)

jeff

Posted by: Breck at June 29, 2004 05:54 PM

It's fascinating to me seeing how history is able to repeat itself in various ways. First we appease Hitler by giving him the Rhineland, then a few years down the road Pearl Harbor gets bombed. Later we assume we're an impenetrable fortress, making O'Sama and Al Queda minimal threats, and we lose two skyscrapers. Now PAD decides to just ignore Dee and his copy/paste rants and gets bombed with a lewd, vicious attack against his family.

All of the above instances have resulted in someone being forced to toil long and hard afterward to get everything straightened out; WWII troops, Afghanistan troops, Glenn Hauman. The whole thing makes you really wonder if it wasn't a good idea go take a madman like Saddam out of power before he came after us (dot dot dot). Whether or not preventative maintenance could have avoided it all before, and what might have been were it not practiced in Iraq today.

Have we learned something today? Meh, probably not.

Posted by: mark coale at June 29, 2004 05:58 PM


The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog.

Posted by: Rachel at June 29, 2004 06:12 PM

Just testing. Ah, I should say something else.

Two termites walk into a bar. One asked, "Is the bar tender here?"

Posted by: Rachel at June 29, 2004 06:13 PM

It's weird. It wouldn't let me preview, just tossed me back to the comment box without me actually being logged in anymore. Just letting you know.

Posted by: odessasteps at June 29, 2004 06:14 PM


The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog.

Posted by: Jay at June 29, 2004 06:21 PM

Is I here?

Posted by: Dave Van Domelen at June 29, 2004 06:24 PM

Morp.

Posted by: Lee Houston, Junior at June 29, 2004 06:25 PM

And so it comes to this.
:(
BTW: Did you see my post concerning either a virus or the AOL duplicator striking again?
Sincerely,
Lee Houston, Junior leehoustonjr@prodigy.net

Posted by: Craig J. Ries at June 29, 2004 06:42 PM

Test...

Posted by: Craig J. Ries at June 29, 2004 06:44 PM

I do NOT want my email address available to view to everybody. If PAD & Glenn want it, fine. But I don't want everybody else with it.

Please tell me this can be changed.

That only invites disaster from another idiot.

Posted by: Corey Tacker at June 29, 2004 06:55 PM

Test.

Posted by: bbalfour at June 29, 2004 07:12 PM

Testing my ability to post comments.

Posted by: Brad Balfour at June 29, 2004 07:16 PM

another test to see if my e-mail address goes away

Posted by: Ray Cornwall at June 29, 2004 08:07 PM

Testing...

Posted by: L.H. Hicks at June 29, 2004 08:09 PM

Testing, 1...2...3...

Posted by: John Mosby at June 29, 2004 08:18 PM

Test 1,2,4.

Posted by: Lou at June 29, 2004 08:19 PM

Hmmmmmm....seems to be workin'...

Posted by: Nytwyng at June 29, 2004 08:36 PM

I share your pain, in regards to SixApart's new systems. The MT pages that I still run remain (and will remain) at 2.661. All new journal-type pages that I've started up are now being run through Wordpress. Yeah...it was nice being able to log in once and access all the different journals on the same server that I use for different purposes, but I'll sacrifice that for a much more mod-friendly piece of software.

Posted by: Karen at June 29, 2004 08:37 PM

I wish I had something witty to write as my first registered post...

Posted by: Karen at June 29, 2004 08:43 PM

OK, now I'm signed up with typekey. Let's see if this works.

Posted by: Karen at June 29, 2004 08:47 PM

I had no trouble signing up, but it looks as though it signs me out after every comment. The screen is flickering, which is driving me crazy. Also, it is posting my real e-mail address. Not too thrilled about that for spam reasons.

Posted by: Bladestar at June 29, 2004 09:05 PM

Is Comcast one of the groups rejecting the e-mails as spam?

Posted by: Jonathan (the other one) at June 29, 2004 09:17 PM

"Later we assume we're an impenetrable fortress, making O'Sama and Al Queda minimal threats, and we lose two skyscrapers."

O'Sama? So now we're linking al-Qaeda to the IRA? :)

Posted by: MDW at June 29, 2004 10:10 PM

Interesting set of glitches so far. Let's see if this works...

Posted by: MDW at June 29, 2004 10:14 PM

Sign-in doesn't seem to be working for me. It just relaods the comments page without actually logging me into an account. Any ideas?

Posted by: super crusader at June 29, 2004 10:52 PM

i couldnt complete the damned registration process because no matter how many times i told them what was in the verification string they said i got it wrong so i guess i am doing it the long way

Posted by: Lady Domini at June 29, 2004 11:00 PM

I ditched MT recently for the same reasons. I am now using PHPNuke, and it works great for my needs. www.phpnuke.org is the phpnuke website, http://www.oentalox.com/eglantine is my website using it. It's a Jacqueline Carey fansite, and you can disallow anonymous comments and the like, and ban people. It's very useful. Might want to give it a try.

Posted by: dj at June 29, 2004 11:03 PM

Here goes nothing . . .

Posted by: Wildcat at June 29, 2004 11:11 PM

Glenn: confirmation e-mail? As in, sent to me after I posted my initial test entry? I suppose I should check my logs, as it's possible my own filters dumped it as spam. They don't bother warning the sender. ;)

I like Ben Rosenberg's idea... there're some decent forum sites out there. It would allow for the posting of irreverence without necessarily dumping it into any of Peter's own threads. ;)

And Craig, it would appear that after the first instance, the e-mail address isn't linked. Even though even that first link could pose problems...

Posted by: Jeff Arns at June 29, 2004 11:50 PM

Testing

Posted by: The Masked Blogger at June 29, 2004 11:55 PM

Just signing in so I can comment here.

Posted by: Rob at June 30, 2004 12:37 AM

These are the voyages....testing...

Posted by: Joe Krolik at June 30, 2004 12:54 AM

TypeKey works. But now a stupid question: Can't Dee or whatever also find a Typekey identity and continue to annoy?

Posted by: cal at June 30, 2004 01:03 AM

just testing the registration

Posted by: cal at June 30, 2004 01:05 AM

okay, now I get it

Posted by: Lindadee at June 30, 2004 01:30 AM

Just testing. My first message seems to have fallen into a black hole.

Posted by: Roger Tang at June 30, 2004 01:48 AM

Test?

Posted by: Colonel Cortez at June 30, 2004 02:21 AM

Testing, testing.

Posted by: gvalley at June 30, 2004 02:38 AM

OK

Posted by: gvalley at June 30, 2004 02:41 AM

This should do it

Posted by: louiecat at June 30, 2004 03:12 AM

testing again!!!

Posted by: louiecat at June 30, 2004 05:53 AM

testing again.

Posted by: Em Baisch at June 30, 2004 07:04 AM

OK, signed up for the whole TypeKey thing. I can live with that. Sorry it had to come to that, sure, but I understand.

Wow. I have to start grocery shopping for Shore Leave. Who all from here will be there (other than PAD)?

Posted by: John DiBello at June 30, 2004 07:48 AM

If youdon't want your email address displayed here, go to typekey.com, log in to access your account, and de-seleect the "send my email address" option checkbox. (I'm assuming it's OK if people do that, Glenn?)

Posted by: Mitch Evans at June 30, 2004 07:57 AM

Now.... Let's see how I can screw this up...

Posted by: Blackjack Mulligan at June 30, 2004 08:19 AM

Just testing

Posted by: Chris Grillo at June 30, 2004 08:58 AM

I hardly ever post, but I would like to say to the person who mocked my "super-shrouding" suggestion... ha.

Posted by: Wildcat at June 30, 2004 10:46 AM

Trying this again. I thought I'd gotten through, but apparently not. And again, I make my own spam filters, so it's something I have to work out for myself. o.o

Posted by: Craig J. Ries at June 30, 2004 10:58 AM

Oh, now that's bloody brilliant. I had attempted to use the Remember me? before, but it didn't work.

Only now, after the changes and going to TypeKey, it finally remembers me with the name & email address boxes.

Posted by: JosephW at June 30, 2004 11:18 AM

Been told I can comment, so

Comment allez-vous?


(Did it work?)

Posted by: CSOlsen at June 30, 2004 02:58 PM

I wish to let the thoughts in my mind be heard on your website.

Posted by: Rick Keating at June 30, 2004 03:23 PM

Testing.

Posted by: Rick Keating at June 30, 2004 03:25 PM

Testing again. Typekey wasn't working a moment ago. Now it apparently is. Let's see.

Posted by: Wildcat at June 30, 2004 03:26 PM

Okay, I am now no longer a doofus. ^.^;

Please disperse. Nothing to see here...

Posted by: Rick Keating at June 30, 2004 03:28 PM

I see that it's still posting my E-Mail address, even though I Do NOT have the "send E-Mail address" box checked. Does anyone know how this can be corrected so E-Mail addresses do not show unless we want them to?

Rick

Posted by: Rick Keating at June 30, 2004 03:30 PM

O.K. That's weird. That second post didn't have my E-Mail address, while the one previous to it did. Which means this post will probably display my third grade report card.

Fun with technology.

Rick

Posted by: Mark L at July 16, 2004 10:23 AM

Glenn,

FYI, SixApart released 3.1D that allows previews to function before posting. The upgrade is simple: copy the new MT scripts over the old ones and add a flag to the Comment Preview template. I just got it up and working on my site in the last few minutes.